Date: Wed, 18 May 94 07:04:09 PDT From: The Info-Mac Moderators Reply-To: Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu Subject: Info-Mac Digest V12 #75 To: info-mac-list Info-Mac Digest Wed, 18 May 94 Volume 12 : Issue 75 Today's Topics: [*] TidBITS#226/16-May-94 "Thunderware" (A) Elite+ [FWD] [D[D[DApparent Bug in System Update 3.0 [Q] Anyone know the current status of DataScan? [RE] Backup solutions -- What Kind and do brands matter Address Needed ARA CCL for Supra at 9600? A repair guide to Personal Laserwriter NT ? Book available for MPW? (Q) Can anyone help me contact Apple (followup) Can Excel Talk to me? [S] Coca Cola Commercials in QT? Convenient Printer Chooser Corrupt Word docs 'Recovered' Delete MerryXMAS Easy View Express Modem frame grabber problems (2 msgs) GeoPort Huh! Internal modem? InterNews HELP LaserWriter Startup page (R) (2 msgs) Mac file format ? MacTCP updates MacWorld expo in Europe. Mail order source--NEC SW 2 90 toner cartridges Mosaic Extension (Q) MountImage1.2b2.warning Movie2Snd source (Q) Need Sounds ! New Apple CDROM software w/ CAI internal CD printing on a UNIX-machine: solved! problems with the sys update 3.0 Problem with PPP on PB Quadra 605 on an inverter radar antenna pattern prediction model (R) ResEdit & Map? (A) ROM drives for the mac? Scheduler (Q) Simpsons SoundEdit 16 and AV Macs Startup sound Suppress Startup Page on Laserwriter Suppress Startup Page on Personal LW NT That Ongoing Headless Chicken Scenario Just Ran Past Me Again Train Sounds Which surge protector? Why is DayStar PPC card so expensive? (R) Your favorite Internet site The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa, Gordon Watts and Liam Breck. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Mail articles for inclusion in the digest to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send binaries to be placed in the archives to macgifts@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 May 94 22:55:32 PDT From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst) Subject: [*] TidBITS#226/16-May-94 TidBITS#226/16-May-94 Access America Online via the Internet? That's right, and read on for the details. Mark Anbinder reports on Apple's System Update 3.0, which includes a slew of fixes for System 7.1 (and later) users, Mr. Chan complains rightly about the way international customers are treated, and John Wolf provides some instructions for a rainy day of electronics work, assuming you want to use Apple's resolution switching software with a non-Apple multisync monitor. Topics: MailBITS/16-May-94 Sales Gripe from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Apple Multiple Scan Software System Update 3.0 America Online Gets Wired Reviews/16-May-94 [Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-226.etx; 30K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 08:56:56 GMT From: rfblec@sunfish.usd.edu (Bob "Skippy" Blechinger) Subject: "Thunderware" Info-Mac@CAMIS.Stanford.EDU writes: >I have been trying to contact "Thunderware" for days now. All you can get >is recorded messages, never talk to humans. Tried faxing without returns. >My problem (if anyone can help) >I just purchased a "Lightning Scan Compact" - a hand held scanner. I run >it on my Mac SE which is running system 6.0.7. I have available total >memory 6400 K with Finder 4402 K and system 1998 K. >The scan DA works fine and brings up a new scan field properly. My problem >is that when I open the Thunderworks application, and click "new scan" or >"scan and join", I get the following message: >"Sorry there isn't enough memory to completer the current operation" >This is strange since I haven't even opened anything yet and I would think >that I have plenty of available memory. (My RAM cache is off and I am not >using multifinder. Any suggestions? >norm@helix.nih.gov Norm, Well, the first thing that comes to mind is that your System & Finder are taking up *way* too much RAM!!! To start with, unless you have an 020 or 030 accelerator card that can give you a maximum of *more* than 4 Meg, your total memory should be 4096 K. I run my SE with System 6.0.8, and I have an 030 card in it. The Finder (6.1.8) takes up about 160 K, if I remember correctly. My System, without any INITs, etc. uses about 200 K, and the way I have it, it takes slightly less than 900 K. Thunderworks doesn't take up all that much RAM, either (especially if you compare it to something like Photoshop), so you shouldn't be running out of RAM from that... Best thing I can say at this point is to ask you to give me a *complete* list of what you have as far as INIT's, cdev's, etc., on your Mac, and we can take it from there... :) Hope this helps! :) -Bob Blechinger AppleCore of Siouxland Mac Software Director Sioux Falls, South Dakota rfblec@sunfish.usd.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 94 23:20:54 -0500 From: "Joshua B. Colglazier" Subject: (A) Elite+ From: Brian Veenker Hey! Anybody remember that classic game Elite+? Was it ever made for the Mac? Anybody know where I could obtain a copy? **************** Elite has not been ported to the Mac (much to my dismay). However, a guy named Christian (cfranz@home.malg.net.ch) is writing "Final Frontier" which he says is somewhat similar to Elite. The demo/alpha version can be found in the sumex archives. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 94 08:27:26 EDT From: dcolores@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil Subject: [FWD] [D[D[DApparent Bug in System Update 3.0 Corrected error in sumex address line. >Forward message follows. >To: info-mac@sumex.stannford.edu >From: dcolores >Posted: May 18 08:08 1994 EDT (May 18 12:08 ZULU) >Cc: >Blind Carbon Copy (BCC) >Subject: Apparent Bug in System Update 3.0 > >An alert to those who have downloaded System Update 3.0. > >Loaded System Update 3.0 in my Mac IIfx (20 meg RAM, no internal HD, >boot from dual 150 bernoulli) to update System 7 Pro. Printed a file in >MS Word that uses Adobe's AGaramond Semibold and Semibolditalic True >Type fonts. File prints with bitmap jaggies as if ATM were not >installed. Same file printed two days earlier with smooth crisp >output. Same file printed today with another bootdisk that did not have >System Update 3.0 installed was also smooth and crisp. Only difference >in system configuration with the before/after prints is System Update >3.0. Other boot disk has essentially the same System 7 Pro folder as >the primary boot disk before its update. > >I don't know the cause but it appears that something in the System >Update 3.0 is interfering with true type font smoothing. I don't >understand ATM well enough to know whether it is involved, but its >configuration is the same on both disks, and it is active. > >Using ATM ver. 2.0.3 and LaserWriter driver ver. 7.0. > >Steve Seiden >dcolores@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 16:31:27 +0100 From: phardman@ssci.liverpool.ac.uk (Peter Hardman) Subject: [Q] Anyone know the current status of DataScan? Does anyone know the current status of software called DataScan. We have a very old version (1.03) which was published in 1988 by a company called BrainPower, Inc. We would like to purchase either the latest version or a suitable equivalent. DataScan is capable of reading TIFF or MacPaint bit-map files of graphs and converting the data to x-y values. It can handle multiple lines and has options for noise tolerance and other things. If anyone knows the current status of this software or suitable equivalent and where it can be obtained then please let me know. Thankyou. Peter. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 07:51:24 PDT From: Bruce_Rubin.Wbst845@xerox.com Subject: [RE] Backup solutions -- What Kind and do brands matter Gregory, While I don't want to confuse you with your decision on which type of hardware/technology to purchase to do your backup (I haven't made my own mind up on this one yet either!), I do want to let you know how pleased I am with the support I have received from APS. I have had a few very technical questions (not problems) which they have promptly answered via Internet (71520.72@compuserve.com) and/or TOLL FREE tech support number (800-334-7550). The products that I have purchased from them work fine and I plan to continue to patronize them because of their above average technical support. Bruce Rubin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 94 22:22:31 CEST From: Marco Ridoni Subject: Address Needed Does anybody have e-mail address of A4 Tech Ltd. or Thunderworks (two scanner producers)? I'm trying to interface my PC Scanner with my new Mac. Shouldn't anyone be able to answer, I'll have to keep using my PC... Marco ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 13:02:39 +0000 From: Matthew Johnson Subject: ARA CCL for Supra at 9600? I run an ARA server from a Supra V.32bis modem and a spare SE. It works fine with calls coming in at 2400, but with calls from other 14.4k modems it has problems both establishing a connection and maintaining it for any length of time. I suspect the problem is the speed of the SE, since I have managed to make connections with ZTerm at 14.4 without problem. Does anyone have a CCL that would limit the Supra to 9600, or alternatively does anyone have any other ideas? Please reply to me and I will summarize responses. Many thanks, Matthew. --- Matthew G. Johnson IC-Parc William Penney Laboratory Imperial College London SW7 2AZ UK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 20:33:31 +0100 (BST) From: Nigel.Gilbert@soc.surrey.ac.uk Subject: A repair guide to Personal Laserwriter NT ? I have an Apple Personal Laserwriter NT which I have gummed up with a sticky label from laser label stationery. When the front of the Laserwriter is open, the miscreant label is clearly visible underneath the fuser (black "furry" plastic, marked 'Warning High Temperature'), but is not accessible either from above or from below (i.e. from the manual paper feed area). It seems that I shall have to unscrew something, probably the fuser unit, to get to the label. Although the Laserwriter is no longer under warranty, I am wary about randomly unscrewing parts without knowing what I am doing, in case I don't succeed in getting it all back together again. Can anyone advise me on which screws I should undo to remove the fuser? Or is there another, better access route? Is there a repair manual for this Laserwriter that can be purchased for a reasonable sum by people like me, i.e. ordinary owners, which shows which screws do what and the like? All help gratefully received. Thanks. -- Prof. G. Nigel Gilbert, Department of Sociology, University of Surrey Guildford GU2 5XH, England. Tel: +44 483 259173 gng@soc.surrey.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 20:31:14 +0000 From: ajcarr@ccvax.ucd.ie (Alun J. Carr) Subject: Book available for MPW? (Q) Is there a book available which provides a simple introduction to the MPW shell? Apple's manuals are intimidating to say the least, and I would like to be able to do more with the MPW shell, other than use the canned commands that come with my FORTRAN compiler. Thanks in advance. Alun -- Dr A. J. Carr, Mech. Eng. Dept., UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4, Ireland Internet: ajcarr@ccvax.ucd.ie ------------------------------ Date: 16 May 1994 19:26:22 GMT From: gislil@rhi.hi.is (Gisli Leifsson) Subject: Can anyone help me contact Apple (followup) I'm sorry if I was not specific enough when I asked for "Apple's e-mail address". I just assumed that people would understand it as meaning tech support, and at the time I wrote it, I was in a kind of panic. I know that Apple has zillion internet addresses. What I wanted was actually to know why CloseView (the cp for the visually impaired) was so damn slow on an 80MHz 8100 (slower than on a Quadra 700) and if they had a fix for it. Anyway, I've got what I want now (thanks again Brian) so I'd appreciate it if I would not get any more mail on the subject. Gisli ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 18:07:47 +0100 From: Big Nose Subject: Can Excel Talk to me? [S] Dear All, Many thanks to all who replied to my recent query about getting Excel to read back my spreadsheet data. I'm sorry that it has taken so long to reply, but I've been really busy with a large scale experiment these past few weeks and haven't had the time. Anyhow, in summary there are two add ins out there that will make Excel talk back. They are ExcelTalk by John Blackburne and Excel Talk (note the space!) by Richard Buckle. They should both be available at sumex and its mirrors, but Richard was kind enough to mail his version to me. You will also need the Speech Manager which is available from ftp.apple.com. Getting that was the hardest part of the whole exercise. The voices I have available are a bit Pink Floyd / Stephen Hawking for my liking. I don't know if it is possible to get better quality sound from other voices. Anyone care to contribute? Thanks go to Rangsarn Peter Chanyavanich, Stephen Grady, Richard Buckle, Dave Axler, Jeffrey N. Fritz & Lloyd Butler for their help. Regards, Andy Law ( Lawa @ afrc.ac.uk Big Nose in Edinburgh ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 12:05:11 -0400 (EDT) From: gt0151c@prism.gatech.edu (David Shaw) Subject: Coca Cola Commercials in QT? What happened to the coca cola quicktime movies? There were a lot of them in the archive for a while. Was it a copyright violation? Are they still there somewhere? If someone could tell me another site that has them, I'd appreciate it. Thanks... David Shaw | gt0151c@acme.gatech.edu | Georgia Institute of Technology ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 16:03:17 -0500 From: Tom Wilson (Tom Wilson) Subject: Convenient Printer Chooser What I'd really like to see is a a print dialog box that has the AppleShare Zone and Available Printer window so you could select where you want the output to go each time you issue a print command. Default would always be the one selected in Chooser. No response is necessary, I'm just wishin'......... Tom Wilson Oak Ridge National Laboratory Oak Ridge, TN Voice: 615-574-3927 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 19:39:30 +0000 From: steven.taylor@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Steve Taylor) Subject: Corrupt Word docs 'Recovered' Hi all, This technique/long shot worked for me, maybe somebody else could find it useful. Sorry if everybody knows about it already: A customer here had been busily documenting a sophisticated project recently with Microsoft Word 5.1, a file of about 410K in length. Machine was a Quadra 950 with sys 701, 12MB RAM. After a successful morning's modifying of this file, the person returned after lunch to continue, only to find on doubleclicking the file that the machine froze. Reaching no further than the Word toolbars, one of two problems would occur: 1) Total lockout with no response from CMD-OPT-ESC or programmer's key 2) Occasionally a "Not enough memory to open Word" and immediate Quit. Opening Word first then the file from within would suspend the machine but CMD-OPT-ESC could in this case quit, but it did look like the file was the trouble and not Word itself. Their last backup? A month ago. When will it be needed? Next few days. The customer was not happy ("Distraught"). Usual attempts to fix with Norton Utils, checks with Disinfectant etc. didn't help. File duplicated and copied OK. Converting the creator code and type to permit opening in PlainText allowed viewing of the ACSII but of course all the formatting was lost (lots of it). Saving as text and opening in Word still caused the hang. But being able to see the doc contents was a big help - there seemed to be some sort of graphics commands there (EPS perhaps but I'm no expert; there had been a graph image in there somewhere) with bits of document text interspersed at various points, and what looked to be some Eudora email messages stuck in their too! Apparently the person in question had had Eudora open simultaneously with Word 5.1 that morning.... weird huh? Anyway I could cut and paste the individual unformatted text sections into another doc and save OK so I suspected manic graphics were causing the hang. A sort of solution was available by virtue of the the multiplatform systems we have here: mostly macs and Windows PCs. All I did was to format a floppy with PC exchange as a PC disk, transfer the bad Mac Word file to it, open it (slowly) in PC Word4Windows which seemed to handle the file, then save as a proper Word4Windows file again. Then, take it back to the Mac, let Word 5.1 convert from PC to Mac word format, and lo and behold it opened OK with all the formatting intact. The good/bad bit (depending on your perspective) is that the graphic was lost - though this was not a problem because it was early on in the doc and could be recovered from the old backup. Presumably, the translation between Word for Mac and Word for Windows is not 100%, and so anything not understood is filtered out in the translation - including the screwball graphics. Cheers, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 21:39:22 +1000 (EST) From: jason@jolt.mpx.com.au (Jason Haines) Subject: Delete MerryXMAS About This Document ------------------ This document contains information on * the Delete MerryXmas stack * the MerryXmas virus * how to use Delete MerryXmas * freeware legal information * contacting the author What is Delete MerryXmas? ------------------------ Delete MerryXmas 1.0 is a HyperCard stack that will check your stacks for the MerryXmas HyperCard virus. It can also install protection into your Home stack to detect and remove the MerryXmas virus automatically. Most (if not all) virus protection programs cannot detect this virus. What is the MerryXmas Virus? --------------------------- The MerryXmas virus infects stack scripts, starting with the Home stack, and any other stacks that you open thereafter. The virus infects HyperCard (and possibly SuperCard) stacks *only*. It does not infect any other files on your hard disk. How to Use Delete MerryXmas -------------------------- Delete MerryXmas 1.0.2 requires HyperCard version 2.1 or later, and at least as much free disk space as the size of the largest stack to be checked. 1. Double-click the Delete MerryXmas stack to open it. The stack immediately disinfects your Home stack, to avoid errors from an existing MerryXmas virus infection. 2. Click the Add... button. To add whole folders or hard disk volumes, hold down the Option key as you click the Add... button. Repeat step 2 to add stacks from more than one location. 3. Select the stacks you want to optimize. 4. Click Start. A grey bar shows the stack's progress through the list of stacks. When all stacks have been checked, a report appears. 5. Click Save. A dialog box appears for you to name the report. Click the Save button (or press the Return key). 6. Click Done. To stop the optimization at any time, click the Stop button. After confirming your action, Delete MerryXmas will stop checking stacks in the list, leaving the remaining stacks untouched. (At certain times, the Stop button is dimmed and the current process cannot be canceled.) Scripter's Note -------------- If you enjoy scripting in HyperCard as much as I do, you're probably quite likely to end up wanting to take it apart. A word of warning: Delete MerryXmas has been designed to work best in its original, *locked* state, so please tinker with an unlocked *copy* only. Also, unlocking Delete MerryXmas may result in its being infected, so please keep it locked. Legal Notice ----------- Naturally, I am not responsible in any way for any losses or damages resulting from your possession or use of this software. Please use this software exclusively at your own risk, and if in doubt, only use it on a backup copy of any stack. This software is Freeware, but is not in the public domain. It remains the property of, and is Copyright (c) 1994 by Simon Poisson. All Rights Reserved. XFCNs: FullSFPack, GetDir, GetFInfo, GetVInfo, and FullSFPack (c) Frederic Rinaldi Simon Poisson ------------ FirstClass E-Mail: Simon Poisson,MacInTouch Snail Mail: PO Box 256 Darlinghurst NSW Australia 2010 Thank you for reading this document. Wednesday, 18 May 1994 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 94 09:25:18 PDT From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst) Subject: Easy View In Regards to your letter <199405160552.AA13372@nwnexus.wa.com>: > I'm trying again to make sense of EasyView; it doesn't make it easy to > establish your own text view. I tried to get the report it refers to: > > file://garbo.uwasa.fi/mac/tidbits/setext/setext_concepts_Aug92.etx Not my file site, so I don't know. Ask Ian Feldman about that site. > but the tidbits directory there doesn't appear to have an setext > subdirectory. I also looked hopefully at tidbits.com, and found the > setext directory there appears to be empty; shame, Adam. That's a private directory - there's never been anything in there for people to play with (nor much of anything ever). There may be at some point, but no guarantees. > Does anyone know where this document is, or where I can get instruction > on creating my own views? That document has nothing on working with Easy View anyway. Easy View comes with its own documentation and includes its author's email address both in the About box and in the documentation. > And, by the way, just to overload this note, EasyView 2.4 got a bus error > on my 660av while I was bumbling around trying to make a new view. Are > there known problems there, and should I abandon hope of using it on > my Quadra? Works perfectly on my 660AV. OK, I'll freely admit that Easy View works in a slightly non-standard way - it has to to do the things it does. However, it's just not that hard. Easy View's documents are "view documents." They are in essence an index to a set of text files. Those text files must live in the same folder as the view document, which is why Easy View comes with a folder for TidBITS that contains a preconfigured view document. So, if you want to use Easy View to view TidBITS, download an issue as a TEXT file (ie - don't save it in Word format or anything proprietary - Nisus works fine because its native file format is TEXT), then save that file in the TidBITS folder that comes with Easy View. If you don't have that folder, download a new copy of Easy View since every distribution copy comes with that folder. Once you have put an issue of TidBITS in the proper folder, launch Easy View by opening the TidBITS view document. Easy View will launch and will automatically read in the TEXT file in that folder. Now, the main reasons this doesn't work for some people is that they save in a word processor format or their comm program downloads the issue in a strange way. We're looking for straight, readable text here - open the issue in TeachText or SimpleText to check it if you're concerned. OK, but what if you want to create a new view document? Launch Easy View, and choose New from the FIle menu. Save the file in a specific folder (create a new one if necessary), since that's where you'll have to put the files that the view document will view. Easy View then opens up a blank window. Choose Modify View from the File menu, and you'll see a Font/DA Mover style window. First, choose a format from the popup menu in the lower right - it's setext for TidBITS, Digest for Info-Mac, Mail for Unix email, and so on. Then select one or more files from the left hand list and click on the > or >>> button (the first one does one file, the second does all the files in the list). When Easy View is done processing, click Done and save your view document from the File menu. There now, that wasn't so bad, was it? The reason Easy View uses this non-standard method of creating what are in essence indexes to the text files is because that method allows fast access to the files but at the same time keeps the size of the view document very small. In addition, Easy View never modifies any of the original text files, so you don't have to worry about that at all. cheers ... -Adam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 11:07:19 -0600 From: (Pete Chane) Subject: Express Modem I am on a 660av with a GeoPort. Using GeoPort software 1.2 and the new Express Modem 1.5.2 (new interface!). With MacSLIP, I have problems staying connected to the University dial-in here. At times my connection vanishes although the line stays connected. The phone is still connected, but my SLIP connection is lost. This happens quite often and I have been unable to isolate the problem - MacTCP or SLIP or my AV system? (1) Has anyone else had this problem? (2) Is there a way to reset the GeoPort without the cntrl-cmd-opt-shift-powerkey reboot? Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 12:09 +0100 (MET) From: "A.L. SMIT, AB-DLO, WAGENINGEN NL" Subject: frame grabber problems We have a DT Quick Capture Framegrabber in a fx. I use this card for grabbing picures from a video-recorder with NIH-Image. Now the strange thing occurs that the card only functions when I remove the card from the slot and put it back again. Then it functions for the rest of the day. Next day same story again. Using an other slot won't help. Any suggestions? Bert Smit e-mail smit@ab.agro.nl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 12:09 +0100 (MET) From: "A.L. SMIT, AB-DLO, WAGENINGEN NL" Subject: frame grabber problems We have a DT Quick Capture Framegrabber in a fx. I use this card for grabbing picures from a video-recorder with NIH-Image. Now the strange thing occurs that the card only functions when I remove the card from the slot and put it back again. Then it functions for the rest of the day. Next day same story again. Using an other slot won't help. Any suggestions? Bert Smit e-mail smit@ab.agro.nl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 17:09:10 -0400 From: "Charles A. Patrick" Subject: GeoPort I just received our GeoPort adaptors, and I cannot seem to be able to get them to work properly with our telephone system. The most audible aspect of the problem is that my telephone is dead. The modem function seems to be working, at least to the extent that AT&F gets an OK response, but my telephone hand set is completely dead. Our telephone system, which is huge, is one which allows each line to be accessed directly by outside callers, but requires a prefix (8 in our case) to access an outside line. In addition we have a centralised voice-mail system which intercepts calls after three rings. I suspect, and have a call in to verify, that our system uses more than two of the six available wires to do its thing. Does the GeoPort adaptor recognise more than the two middle wires? While I have a call in to Apple about this last, I thought I might plumb the wisdom of the List. I would appreciate any information that has a bearing on this situation. Thanks. Charles A. Patrick (patrcha@statcan.ca) International and Professional Relations Division Statistics Canada Ottawa, ON K1A 0T6 CANADA Tel: 613.951.8920 FAX: 613.951.1231 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 94 20:29:13 EDT From: "Christopher B. Hopkins (Wesley)" Subject: Huh! Internal modem? Well, a few days back I posted a query about problems with my modem port on my PB165. Although I've had this machine for months, it turns out that it has an internal modem in it! This, through the Powerbook control panel settings, has caused problems with the external modem I have been using. I figure, as I bought this 165 new and out-of-the-book, that it came with a modem. But, the retailer didn't know it (evidently -- I got a sweet deal). How do I find out what kind of modem it is? I've had little luck using my terminal programs (which I use for the ex. modem) with the internal modem. Hmm. Any thoughts? Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 94 23:45:25 -0500 From: "David FC Sproule" Subject: InterNews HELP I have gotten as far as downloading InterNews 1.0 to my Mac LC III. I recently began having trouble with another newsreader and my University help line suggested changing to InterNews. I am using a SLIP connection and having no trouble with any other aspect of the computer use. Two other newsreaders resulted in running out of memory and system crashes and oddities on my screen while attempting to "get full list of newsgroups" for initial set up. InterNews seems to retrieve all the groups but then about 2 minutes into "sorting groups" I get a bomb and message of "numeric overflow". HELP! I realize this is not intended as a help line...perhaps you can refer me. I'm hours and hours into this process, stuck and with nowhere to turn and no news to read! Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 11:53:07 +0200 From: cbuser@ezinfo.vmsmail.ethz.ch (Christian F. Buser) Subject: LaserWriter Startup page (R) tidbits@aviano.af.mil asked: >Folks, I'm having a bit of a problem. Want to suppress the startup >page on my wife's new Personal LW NT. I know I can send it a series of >Postscript commands to suppress the startup page, but that's a pain >(sounding spoiled?) and I can foresee times when we'd want to turn it >on again, then off.... is there a small utility or hack to do this? You don't need to send PS commands. Just use Aplles LaserWriter utility which should be included on the disks that came with the printer. There's an option (radio-button, I think) to enable or disable startup-page. >Item #2 -- "The Namer" which came with my printer on a diskette won't >run. Claims it can't find a "printer driver or printer definitions on >my boot disk". But I'm happily printing away with Laserwriter 8. Duhh.. >what am I missing here? Sounds like the software with your printer is older than the LW8 printer driver. The Apple LaserWriter utility also was complaining that way. This was due to the fact that earlier versions of the printer driver were different: they had a separate "LaserPrep" file. Maybe you should get hold of the latest version of the LaserWriter Utility and the Namer. Greetings, Christian. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 11:53:07 +0200 From: cbuser@ezinfo.vmsmail.ethz.ch (Christian F. Buser) Subject: LaserWriter Startup page (R) tidbits@aviano.af.mil asked: >Folks, I'm having a bit of a problem. Want to suppress the startup >page on my wife's new Personal LW NT. I know I can send it a series of >Postscript commands to suppress the startup page, but that's a pain >(sounding spoiled?) and I can foresee times when we'd want to turn it >on again, then off.... is there a small utility or hack to do this? You don't need to send PS commands. Just use Aplles LaserWriter utility which should be included on the disks that came with the printer. There's an option (radio-button, I think) to enable or disable startup-page. >Item #2 -- "The Namer" which came with my printer on a diskette won't >run. Claims it can't find a "printer driver or printer definitions on >my boot disk". But I'm happily printing away with Laserwriter 8. Duhh.. >what am I missing here? Sounds like the software with your printer is older than the LW8 printer driver. The Apple LaserWriter utility also was complaining that way. This was due to the fact that earlier versions of the printer driver were different: they had a separate "LaserPrep" file. Maybe you should get hold of the latest version of the LaserWriter Utility and the Namer. Greetings, Christian. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 18:05:50 +0200 From: dittmer@fokus.uke.uni-hamburg.de (Ulf Dittmer) Subject: Mac file format ? Hi netters, I need to know how a Mac HFS file is constructed, meaning how the exact sequence of bytes constituting the header and the two forks is. Our institute needs to generate Mac files on Unix workstations. Is this information part of Inside Macintosh ? If yes, would the "old" edition be sufficient ? Many thnaks in advance for any help. Greetings, Ulf dittmer@uke.uni-hamburg.de ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 94 09:26:28 PDT From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst) Subject: MacTCP updates In Regards to your letter <199405160552.AA13372@nwnexus.wa.com>: > How do we acquire updates for MacTCP? I am running 2.02 c/o Adam Engst's > book, and I was wondering if updating to 2.04 would improve stability. Look in: ftp://ftp.tidbits.com/pub/tidbits/tisk/mactcp/ for the updater, and make sure to run it on a clean copy of MacTCP >From the master disk. The updater doesn't work on a copy that you've opened already. cheers ... -Adam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 09:48:05 -0400 From: Marc_Dionne@UQTR.UQuebec.ca (Marc Dionne) Subject: MacWorld expo in Europe. Does someboby know when there is a MacWorld expo in Europe. I know that last year it was one in September at Paris in France. Does someone know wish is the date for this year. Please answer to me, I want to go there. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 15:13:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "William P. Krauthammer" Subject: Mail order source--NEC SW 2 90 toner cartridges I know this is a bit off-topic but can anyone recommend a reputable mail order house that sells replacement toner cartridges for an NEC SilentWriter 2 90? I'm looking for new cartridges at the best price possible. Email would be appreciated given the limited interest that any responses would encompass. If you'd like to know what I find out, drop me an email and I'll summarize responses. Thanks in advance, Bill -- William P. Krauthammer f2ehg786@umiami.ir.miami.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 94 17:07:28 EDT From: mhm1@zippy.ho.att.com Subject: Mosaic Extension (Q) I read in the 5-9-94 issue of Macweek that an extension has been developed to allow users behind security 'firewalls' to use NCSA Mosaic. They did not indicate where the extension is available from. Any information is welcome. Thanks in Advance, -Max Miller mhm1@zippy.ho.att.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 08:53:40 -0500 From: dwyman@houston.geoquest.slb.com (Douglas Wyman) Subject: MountImage1.2b2.warning There is a piece of unauthorized and dangerous code which frequently gets transferred from other archives to info-mac like a staph infection from a carrier to a salad bar. I last issued this warning to the info-mac moderators on the 14th of March, 1994. It appears that someone has, again, obtained a copy of the control panel MountImage1.2b2 and uploaded it "for our enjoyment". ============================================================= MountImage 1.2b2 is a control panel which allows the desktop mounting of DiskTop diskette image files. !!!WARNING !!! ============== MountImage 1.2b2 has been shown to corrupt files when they are read from a mounted image file. This behaviour does not occur with every diskette image however and since no warnings or error messages appear the user may unknowingly corrupt valuable files when moving them from the image files to other storage. The bug is particularly dangerous during software installations >From disk image files. The author of the control panel is: Steve Christensen America Online stevec44 CompuServe 76174,1712 Internet stevec@applelink.apple.com Steve has requested, several times, that MountImage 1.2b2, be removed from all public servers due to his concern about this bug and other weaknesses in the code. Steve did not, in fact, release MountImage 1.2b2 to the world, it was "leaked" by his beta testers. MountImage 1.2b2 is DANGEROUS and should be removed >From this and any other archives...It's a bad penny that just keeps coming back! This action was taken, at least twice, by the Info-Mac moderators. Another posted application, Mt.Image by Yosuke "Basuke" Suzuki, uses the MountImage 1.2b2 control panel (and therefore its driver) to mount .image files. It therefore shares the same problems discussed above since it depends on MountImage 1.2b2 for its operation. I have "been burnt" by MountImage. I have also confirmed the above statements by email with Steve Christensen. Steve works for Apple and is the author of the popular and reliable SuperClock as well as Apple's own DiskCopy (which creates the .image files). Steve is blameless in this matter...He has tried hard to remove the MountImage 1.2b2 from public distribution. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 14:18:20 -0600 From: Earl Misanchuk Subject: Movie2Snd source (Q) Can anyone please send me or point me to a source for Scott Lindsey's freeware MOVIE2SND which, according to a recent MacUser, will convert the soundtrack from a QuickTime movie into a snd resource? Or can anyone tell me about (or better, provide me with) an alternative program? ADVthanxANCE ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 15:49:54 +0100 From: VRDP3ROZ@RLMVX1.RULIMBURG.NL Subject: Need Sounds ! Hallo, I am currently working on a Mac application. The Dutch version works fine. Now I want an English / American version. For that I need some (spoken) sounds in (real) English or American language and well pronounced, but clear and short (in time). What I need are the following sounds: = The sounds 0 (null) 1 (one) 2 (two) and so on to 9 (nine) = The sounds + (plus) and - (minus) = The sounds (space) (tab) (point) and (komma) Could some kind soul please speak these words (as I noticed) SHORT (in time) BUT CLEAR for me, compact the whole , binhex it and send it to me ? You will receive my Mac application shortly after that !! FREE !! It is an application that will read data for you, no matter in what application you are working, a wordprocessor or a spreadsheet or what ever, its not important. And it works on a Mac Plus / SE and up !! send your stuff to: nico.rozendaal@np.rulimburg.nl Thanks !! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 09:06:16 EST From: scotts@gdstech.grumman.com (Scott Stricker) Subject: New Apple CDROM software w/ CAI internal CD I have a Centris 610 running System 7.1 with a built in CAI CD-ROM. I've had 3 problems with the new CD-ROM software. 1. If I try to install it, the installer crashes with an application error. 2. If I manually try to copy the files to my system folder, I get all sorts of weird behaviour. System locks up...screen clears... 3. If I try to use the application, I get a message that the application needs to be made bigger. If I do so with Get Info, the min size goes to 0 and the preferred size goes to 4 MBytes. Also, the app size changes to ~ 2 Mbytes. Any thoughts? Does this stuff work on a centris/ Does this stuff work with CAI internal CD-Roms? Thanks for your help Scott Stricker - scotts@gdstech.grumman.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 10:46:07 +0200 From: "Jan van Schoot" Subject: printing on a UNIX-machine: solved! A few issues ago I sent in a question about printing on a UNIX-machine. I received two answers, both dealing with the question in it's own way. Because I think the Info-Mac archives should contain both the questions and the answers I will summarise what I have received from others. Bill Rausch wrote to me: > I've got the same setup you do: print to disk, use telnet to move the file to > the Unix host, and send it to the Unix postscript printer. > What I've done to make it work is to leave my NCSA Telnet program running all > of the time, and then wrote a Unix script called macprint that I just give the > nameof the file on my mac that I want to print. > For example, a Word document named sample. I'll print to disk a file called > sample.ps, click in my Telnet window and type macprint sample.ps. > macprint ftp's to my mac, gets the file, sends it to the printer, and then > removes it from the host. > I don't have unlimited memory either, but Apple's system 7 virtual memory > works fine for me so I just leave my telnet session active allthe time. I think it's a fairly good solution if you have to use telnet often or, in his case have, have the ability of virtual memory. However, my LC-zero does not have this feature. Another solution came from Sylvia Elliott: > there are 2 versions of lpd for the Mac, both shareware/freeware. > One is called lpr, the other is lpdaemon. The last one sets up your > Mac as an LPdaemon so that unix people can send PS to your laserwriters. > I believe it lets macs do lpr to unix printers also. > I forget where to find these pgms, do an archie or gopher search. With too much effort I found it at info-mac/util/lp-daemon-332.hqx. It contains both programs Sylvia wrote about. The program lpr does exactly what I need. It consumes 100k of RAM, needs to be configured only once and supports Drag&Drop so it has found its own place on my desktop. Jan van Schoot, e-mail: sct@eltn.utwente.nl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 09:24:54 -0500 (CDT) From: park0009@gold.tc.umn.edu Subject: problems with the sys update 3.0 well i just installed the sys update 3.0 on my powermac 6100/80 and now it crashes out whenever I tell it to EMPTY TRASH.. it bombs by telling me that it can't find the FLOATING POINT PROCESSOR ... then i have to restart... i got this update off of the apple ftp server (ftp.apple.com).. seems like it has a bug in it. henry park (park0009@gold.tc.umn.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 13:52:15 -0500 From: wink@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Larry Wink) Subject: Problem with PPP on PB After suffering for years with a CLI interface to the Internet (first using VMS on an IBM mainframe and more recently through a UNIX shell on a Sun Workstation), a free weekend with my wife out of town present the opportunity to attempt a direct hookup via a dialup to a PPP server. I purchase Adam Engst's Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh (Thanks Adam! Great book and a fantastic bargain.) and within an hour had my desktop Mac on the Net. Then I tried to set up my PB 165 (8/80 running System 7.1 with Update 3.0 and MacTCP 2.0.4) and found that MacPPP 2.0.1 could not find my internal modem (ZOOM PBK 144). MacPPP indicates that it is checking for the modem and then times out before the modem responses. The modem works fine with ZTerm 0.9, ClarisWorks 2.1 and FaxSTF 3.0.1(beta). The documentation that came with MacPPP indicates that "the Port Name pop-up menu allows you to select the modem port, printer port, or any other serial ports registered with the Communications Toolbox." My pop-up only indicates a "Modem Port" and a "Printer Port" so apparently my internal modem is not "registered" with the CTB. Since it works with both non-CTB aware programs (ZTerm) and CTB aware programs (ClarisWorks), I'm not sure what the problem is or how one "registers" a serial port with the CTB. While checking out the internal modem with my other communications programs, I did stumble upon a kludge that will allow MacPPP to find the modem and establish a link with the server. If I turn "on" the FaxSTF software, set it to auto-answer, and then open MacPPP, FaxSTF releases the internal modem port to MacPPP and MacPPP logs onto the server. Neat feature of FaxSTF but something I rather avoid since using FaxSTF to keep the internal modem port active probably extracts a power penalty that I would rather not pay. I would appreciate guidance on how to "register" my internal modem with the CTB or other sage advice that would allow MacPPP to find my internal modem. My PB has many fewer control panels and extensions than my desktop Mac with CPU the only software on the PB that is not also on the desktop machine. Thanks to all who take the time to respond and I will post a summary if a solution is found. Larry Wink or "Still naked in the periwinkle." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 94 08:04:16 PDT From: George Steinitz Subject: Quadra 605 on an inverter After I got tired of schlepping my Quadra 800 to my cabin for weekend use, I purchased a Quadra 605 to leave there permanently. To my great surprise, it does not power up when connected to my inverter (DC to AC) on my solar system. When I called Apple Technical support they informed me that this problem had been reported previously and they had no suggestions for cures. Does anyone have any ideas on how to circumvent this problem without having to run the generator every time I want to use my 605? (My limited under- standing is that inverters produce a modified sine wave which *most* units can use, but for some reason the 605 cannot.) Thanks for any help. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 12:45:13 -0500 From: "Andrew E. Scheck" Subject: radar antenna pattern prediction model (R) I'm posting this for a colleague of mine with the following request: ............ I'm looking for a Macintosh tool that will predict radar azimuth and elevation antenna patterns (i.e., sidelobe/backlobe levels and positions) given: 1) A detailed description of the antenna/feed hardware (sizes and spacings) and/or 2) A general description of the antenna/feed hardware and measured mainlobe (gain and 3 dB beamwidth) and first sidelobe (level and position) data. .............. A Macintosh application/utility could be built from C/C++/FORTRAN/Pascal source code if that is available instead. Any help with this or at least in pointing him toward more likely sources of information would be greatly appreciated. Andy Scheck aes@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu for Lou Colangelo colanla1@aplmail.jhuapl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 10:20:22 -0500 From: "Andrew E. Scheck" Subject: ResEdit & Map? (A) >Has anyone tried to open the Map Control Panel with ResEdit to change >the timezones? Specifically, I would like to change the entry for >Singapore as the time there is now 8 hours ahead of GMT, not 7 and a half. > >I opened a copy of the CP with Resedit, and the most likely candidate was >the CTY# resource. This had a resource ID of -4064 in it, size 5850. >However, when I tried to double-click this, I get the following message: > > The list contains too many items. The resource may be too big to be > displayed in a template or the resource may not match the template. > >I have tried increasing the memory for ResEdit, but this does not do >anything for it. Can it be done? The problem is not with ResEdit (directly) or with the amount of memory it has available. The problem is the template used to display the data. >From the ResEdit Reference... Note: Templates can contain a maximum of 2048 fields. For the purpose of enumerating, a field is defined as any item that is drawn on the screen. That is, a label counts as a field, as does a separator, and so on. This limiting number of 2048 is reached rather easily, particularly in resources with repeating lists, as for example, 'pltt'. In the case of the 'CTY#' template, it looks like there are 13 fields per city so once you hit the 158th city you've exceeded the template limit. To change Singapore you can write down the latitude and longitude then remove the city. Now recreate it using the new time zone value. If you really want to use ResEdit, use the hex editor to open the 'CTY#' resource, do an ascii find (command-g) on "Singapore" then change the hex 6978 that you find directly above the 'in' in Singapore to a 7080. This worked for me. Andy Scheck aes@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 10:50:58 +0100 From: mrd.deyssenroth@ic.ac.uk Subject: ROM drives for the mac? hello world. i wonder if anyone knows about running the mac system software over ROM. as i do some programming my mac crashes from time to time 8) and i get a bit annoyed about the booting process of several minutes. Any suggestions? also any other hardware hacks are appreciated. (my mac cannot get worse inside) thanks miron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 94 11:10:44 EST From: StanT_Grzybowski@ccgate.mskcc.org Subject: Scheduler (Q) I am looking for a program to shcedule a small group of people into four different assignments. The assignments will rotate within the group on a weekly basis. It should have the ability to input things like vacation schedules and holidays and take these into consideration when making assignments to the schedule. Ideally, it would have a Windows counterpart for those less enlightened. ------------------------------ Date: 17 May 94 20:43:20 GMT From: jschrade@gbsmail.attmail.com (jschrade) Subject: Simpsons Hello everyone, I am trying to find an updated Simpsons episode guide, but not having much luck. I checked a few internet sites which I knew had some Simpsons stuff, but the most recent guide I found was over a year old. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jody Schraden jschrade@gbsmail.attmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 23:31:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Anthony F. Gaudiano II" Subject: SoundEdit 16 and AV Macs Dear Eugene, I too have flamed SoundEdit Pro in the past. Partly because MacroMedia who bought it from Farallon, didn't mention in the upgrade literature that the program required a 68020 processor or greater and also required the Apple Sound Chip. I at the time had a SE and was quite miffed at the fact I just paid $75.00 only to find out that I couldn't use it. However, I did eventually get a computer that can use it and I did. SoundEdit Pro version 1.0.5 works great on my 840 AV. However, it still has a few drawbacks, that being that I have to downsample the 16 bit sound to 8 bit just to edit it. That's where SoundEdit 16 comes into play. SoundEdit 16 was designed to be used on AV Mac's and I would also hope that it would be a Fat Binary to work great on the Power Mac's as well. This program according to a rep. of MacroMedia that I talked to on March 14, 1994, is supposed to allow me to work with and edit 16 bit stereo sounds without any downsampling required. I however won't be paying for the upgrade right away after being burned once. So, my suggestion, wait for Mac User/MacWorld/MacWeek to preview it before buying/upgrading. Anthony F. Gaudiano II ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 10:04:53 -0400 From: "John R. Dunning" Subject: Startup sound I'm new to the Mac community, so please forgive me if this is a stupid or oft-answered question: Can I disable the "chord" that my Mac plays when I power it up, and if so, how? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 94 14:13:15 CET Message-Id: From: tidbits@aviano.af.mil Subject: Suppress Startup Page on Laserwriter Many thanks to the gurus who came to my rescue and showed me how to supress the startup page on my Personal Laserwriter NT. Official geniuses include Al Bloom, Virginia Tech; Heather Jo Tipple at Schlumberger Technologies; Peter Gerhardstein; Murph Sewall at UConn; and "vielen danke" to Christian Buser up north in Switzerland. For the record, the answer was to find the Laserwriter Utilities program which came with Laserwriter 8.1 (from ftp.apple.com). This program wasn't part of the disks with the original Laserwriter; instead, I received the "Namer" program. When I went back and checked the 8.1 install disk, there was the Utilities program. The "Read Me" file even tells you it won't install the Utilities on your hard disk; you have to copy it over manually. Moral: RTF "read me"! Thanks again, Pete Jones Pordenone, Italy tidbits@aviano.af.mil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 11:55:37 -0400 From: Murphy@sbaserv.sba.uconn.edu (Murph Sewall) Subject: Suppress Startup Page on Personal LW NT On Sun, 15 May 94 20:56:25 CET, Pete Jones wrote: >Folks, I'm having a bit of a problem. Want to suppress the startup >page on my wife's new Personal LW NT. Is there a small utility or hack >to do this? > >Item #2 -- "The Namer" which came with my printer on a diskette won't >run. Claims it can't find a "printer driver or printer definitions on >my boot disk". But I'm happily printing away with Laserwriter 8. Duhh.. >what aI missing here? The Personal LW NT disks still contain a version of Namer that isn't compatible with System 7. You can apple.com, but in reality, all you need is a more recent version of LaserWriter Utility (seems to me there's one on the LaserWriter 8 disk) also available from ftp.apple.com and the Apple gopher site. The recent LaswerWriter Utility will BOTH rename the printer and also suppress the startup page. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 23:16:26 +0100 From: Francis Knight Subject: That Ongoing Headless Chicken Scenario Just Ran Past Me Again That Ongoing Headless Chicken Scenario Just Ran Past Me Again: Just had a letter from Apple (BTW Apple, 'Francis' is the _masculine_ form of the name!) telling me that Apple Direct, the UK direct mail operation is no more. This is after barely six months of operation, and one full catalogue. Actually, the prices weren't ruthlessly competitive, for obvious reasons, but at least you could see everything Apple had on the market, including odds and ends like MacTCP. This made it attractive as a reference item, while MacUser et. al. allowed you to find the best current deals. I do hope any new converts Apple made with this operation haven't been too disappointed by Apple's lack of stamina. Cheers, Francis K. At a Mac Oasis Somewhere in Suburban Hertfordshire ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 13:10:37 EDT From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" Subject: Train Sounds I am looking for steam and other railroad sounds. If anyone knows of sites (other than AOL--I've already looked there) where there are digitized railroad sounds, please let me know. Jeffrey Fritz West Virginia University jfritz@wvnvm.wvnet.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 00:58:31 GMT From: jdo@world.std.com (Jack D OLeary) Subject: Which surge protector? What's the scoop on surge protectors these days? Do the more expensive ones really provide better protection, or would I be wasting my money? - Jack O'Leary jdo@world.std.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 02:50:52 -0400 (EDT) From: 2d Lt Avram Dorfman Subject: Why is DayStar PPC card so expensive? (R) It seems to me that DayStar's PPC upgrade card is priced unreasonably to about the same extent that their '040 and '030 cards are. they want about $800 (including adaptor) to put a 50MHz '030 in an LCIII. for that price, you can get a whole quadra 605 CPU, drive, RAM & all. Other comparisons are similar, and keep in mind, an accelerated Mac is NEVER as fast as it's nearest equivalent regular Mac. Partly this is b/c of the slower data bus in some cases, but caches make up for much of that. One of the biggest problems is that Apple's built in video cards usually can't handle more speed than the CPU they were designed for has. I tried out a DiiMoCache 50MHz (64k cache) accellerator on my LCIII. 8 bit and 16 bit video were nerely unchanged. 1 bit (B&W) was drastically improved (75% faster in the worst case). But who want's to keep an LCIII in Black & White? Anyway, as far as accelerator prices go, Daystar just can't compete with Apple in terms of Bulk. I'm just guessing, but I'll bet Daystar hasn't built more than a couple hundred PPC cards. Apple is aiming for PPC sales in the Millions. Apple simply doesn't pay nearly as much for components as Daystar. Daystar justifies their price by giving you 80MHz instead of 60, and letting you put more RAM on the card itself, so it can be accessed straight accross their 64 bit bus, instead of the orignial machine's 32 bit bus. Is this worth $1000? Does it cost them $1000 to build? No, probably not. They do it not because they are "smarter" than apple, but b/c they need an edge. If Apple had chosen to put RAM expansion and a 64 bit bus on their own PPC upgrade card, Daystar would have that and some other extra feature so that consumers would at least be gettign *something* for their extra money. Accelerators are for people who have money to burn, and are either impatient or an a very strict and short time schedule. They are really left over from the old Apple market when everything was way overpriced. You may notice that you don't hear much discussion of acceleration in the PC world, short of built in processor upgradeability. I imagine it's because an accelerator realy does cost almost as much as a whole computer (thanks to economies of scale), and the PC market, having been deflated ages ago, has no room for them. -Avram Dorfman (adorfman@cs.tufts.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 11:42:39 -0400 From: "Tom Scott" Subject: Your favorite Internet site Your favorite Internet sites I'm collecting ideas for people's favorite Internet resources for an article I'm doing. What I'm looking for are resources that are most meaningful to Mac managers and Mac network administrators. I'm looking for: * Best listserv groups * Best usenet groups * Best telnet sites (give passwords if applicable) * Best ftp sites (besides standards of sumex and umich; give path) * Best gopher sites (again give hostname and path, and if it supports gopher + protocol) * Best www sites (give hostname and html file name) Please send me your votes, and I'll summarize. TIA! Cheers! Tom Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY 14853 ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************